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Image from: Life of Pi User Name Remember Me? Member since: Jun Audyssey 2EQ or Manual Calibration? Hey All Now I am not sure which is better manual config or Audyssey Auto setup? I have tried both and not sure which one is better or if there is a difference?

If I do the auto setup and then do some tweaking i. When I do auto setup it sets all my 5 x sat speakers to hz crossover but my speakers are capable to 80 hz? What do you guys reccomend.. Thanks would like to hear your experiences.. Member since: Jan Originally Posted by mkohman.

Originally Posted by serenity. The Audyssey system will usually get the size and crossover points wrong. This is not Audyssey's fault. It has to do with how Onkyo implemented Audyssey into the system. The Audyssey system also sets the distance for the sub based on the delay that the electronics cause.

So if it looks off. Then leave it alone as it's compensating for the electronic delay in the the crossover and amp. I feel that the Audyssey does a really good job in my system with level setting and gets these dead on accurate. You can change any of the settings without affecting the Audyssey EQ curve.

That is locked and can't be touched. Check out the FAQ section at Audyssey as it will answer many of your questions. Member since: Sep If this is true than great I will do the setup one more time in that case save it and do little tweaks if needed and leave it Please confirm above if possible.. Last edited by sptrout; at PM. After looking up your speakers I would stick with the hz on the crossover on the receiver. Your speakers are -3b at 80hz so going a little higher is a good rule of thumb.

Make sure you turn the crossover all the way up on the sub or turn it off as the receiver will be used as the crossover. Originally Posted by sptrout. Audyssey measures the frequency response of each channel and reports those numbers to the AVR which then sets the crossover frequencies.

The primary reason is that Audyssey only does its EQ work down to the -3dB point of each channel where the AVR set the crossover frequencies. Therefore, if you set your crossovers to 80Hz you will be outside the Audyssey EQ range.

BTW - just because a speaker is spec'ed down to a certain frequency does not mean that in the room that number can be reached. Since you are only talking 20Hz here, you will likely never tell the difference regardless which crossover frequency you use.

Serenity's comments are correct in that Onkyo, and others, take Audyssey's report and incorrectly sets any speaker that measures -3dB at 80Hz or bettter as "large," which is never correct. However, if the measured response is above 80Hz then the AVR's setting will be correct. The only flaw in the implementation of Audyssey in some AVRs is incorrectly setting a speaker to "large" when it is not very few are. Top ranked HT gallery. Home Theater Gallery: Blu-ray collection: Trading Score: 1.

Audyssey does several things: It measures the frequency response of the speakers and reports this to the receiver. Based on the results of Audyssey, the crossover points are determined. The levels of the speakers are set. Audyssey performs equalization on the speakers, particularly the subwoofer. The filters on the subwoofer have more resolution than the filters on the speakers.

This is because bass waves create more problems in a small home theater room. Unfortunately, the levels of the speakers are not always set correctly by Audyssey. That is where an SPL meter can help the most. You can run the manual test tones yourself and check the levels with an SPL meter.

An SPL meter is not an absolute necessity, but it can help adjust the level of the speakers a little better. Changing the dB levels will not affect Audyssey filters. It is a good idea to remember the following: If you own one or more quality subwoofer s , all your speakers become small by default.

This has nothing to do with the size of your speakers or its low frequency extension. Bass waves interact differently with the room boundaries and create nasty standing waves. That is why placement becomes important. You normally do not have flexibility to move your front or surround speakers. However, bass waves are nondirectional and subwoofers can be moved around and placed in any location that make them sound the best.

Low frequency waves belong to the subwoofers. This is not a statement against you or your speakers. Setting all the speakers to small will decrease the load from your receiver's amplifier and will increase its headroom.

Some of the burden will be passed over to the subwoofer's amplifier. As others mentioned above, it is ok to increase the crossovers set by Audyssey. It is not OK to lower them. Audyssey only applies correction filters to frequencies above the crossovers points. If you lower the crossover frequencies manually, correction filters will not be applied to the frequencies below the crossovers set by Audyssey.

Always turn the crossover dial on the back of the subwoofer all the way up to its maximum point. The AVR controls the crossovers.

If your receiver allows you to set individual crossovers high pass filters for all the speakers, set them to 80Hz. If you are absolutely sure that your front speakers can output lower frequencies without any strain, it is ok to set them to 40Hz or 60Hz. Make sure the crossover frequency that you choose is 10Hz to 20Hz above the -3dB low frequency extension of the speaker. If you receiver offers a separate subwoofer crossover low pass filter of LFE , set it to Hz.

LFE is an independent channel and has nothing to do with the redirected bass from speakers that are set to small. The LFE channel can have information up to Hz. This information is set by the audio engineers and you have no control over it. If you have two or more subwoofers, it is a good idea to place them approximately the same distance from your listening position. In most cases, Audyssey gets the distances correctly. The only problem arises with multiple subwoofers.

If you have multiple subwoofers, enter the average distance from all the subwoofers. Big Daddy, Thanks for all your help.. I did the setup again earlier this evening and the sat speakers resulted in hz..

My speakers lowest is 80hz.. Are you saying that if I do knock it down to 80hz then the Audessey filters won't work? Also my sub has freq from 40 - when you say turn to max you mean right? Big Daddy summed everything up really well. However a couple things to keep in mind. Your approaching the limit of the speakers bass extension and hz would take some stress off the speakers.

Also I realised.. Shall I do the auto setup without the foam plugs and then pop them in after or with the plugs?


Home theater automatic speaker calibration dos and don'ts

I have been a home cinema enthusiast for years and am always looking for the next upgrade or DIY project. Setting up and calibrating a home surround sound system can be a daunting task if you haven't done it before. This is an easy-to-follow guide that tells you exactly how to do it properly. I do go into some detail about what is going on, so if you want to understand your system, be sure to read it all! There are two types of surround sound system. You have the 'home theater in a box' type system where you buy everything from one manufacturer. You don't have as much freedom to tweak the sound with a setup like this, but you can still set the volume levels accurately to get the most out of it.

I guess the question is if I calibrate using Audyssey and then change the speaker trim levels under Manual setting will I still be able to.

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Shhh! Audyssey is Running! How Quiet Do You Have to Be?

Auto speaker calibration is supposed to ease home theater setup hassles, but getting it right requires some homework. The systems handle the basics like determining the sizes of all the speakers, setting speaker and subwoofer volume levels and the speaker-subwoofer crossover point, measuring the distances from the speakers to the listener, and checking that all of the speaker cables are correctly hooked up. Some autosetup systems also employ equalization to balance the frequency response of all the speakers, and they try to minimize room acoustic problems. To accomplish these goals, the systems send test tones through all of the speakers and the subwoofer, and they all use a microphone to capture the sounds of the speakers.

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I remember I was 23 and I had just gotten my first job out of uni. I was really interested in home cinema technology and I decided to save up for a top of the line Denon with Audyssey. It was a tank of a machine. I came from a bottom of the line Marantz without any room correction so this was super exciting. I naively thought that just following the manual and configuring Audyssey once, I would experience perfection. In any case, I set up the Denon again with Audyssey and the results I got were even worse than before. Well, there are five things that make a large difference when setting up any room correction system but especially Audyssey:.

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