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David Berning 211/845
Posted By: Kedar 16th February David Berning licensed his tech out to Linear tube audio, and they make the microZOTL, a power amp for headphones, serves as a preamp for 2-channel hifi, and also a w power amp — The microZotl 2. Why did hometheatrereview write this —. I will absolutely be purchasing the review sample to become my go-to preamplifier in my large reference system. Now, I had to find out if the component is indeed high value for money or overhyped — so over to my journey.
I initially went to a small specialized dealer called thethoughtprocess in Essex Kelvedon. Peter took me to his main room, where we heard the top of the line Einstein OTL monos and preamps with the Bergmann Sindre and the Soundsmith Straingauge, the speakers were open baffle db Bastanis.
After that, Peter took me upstairs to his office system, which he considered his second system, and we started playing the same vinyl on a Nottingham Analog Reference with a Dynavector cart tipped with the Soundsmith not a set up I am familiar with , into his own tweaked out phono, and the Berning ZOTL pre with Berning Quadrature Z monos. Initially, when I saw this system, I was a bit disappointed.
I mean, look at that — tiny speakers, average live room, speakers back to the wall. As the music started playing, something in me stirred. This was exciting. The sound was clean, transparent, linear, extremely extended at the top yet no edge.
All frequencies were playing as they should. It was as if there was no gear and music was flowing out. These speakers are very interesting. They might look small, but these inert slabs of aluminum are producing great scale and are expensive at 20k. Most other speakers have some artifact that stands out strongly — mids for stats, loads of bass for some large cones, crossover problems, leanness in the midbass, shrieky tweeter, room interactions.
Many a time one or the other of these attributes disturbs us and stops us from having a perfect system. Here are some reviews Positive Feedback. Another positive feedback. While this was by no means perfect, this had promise — the bigger Maestro might actually be one of the best speakers around if this promise is fulfilled.
It is fast, great bass, and the openness and natural imaging gives a lot of musicality. Now, the Bernings were a key in this happening. That is exactly what I found this combo doing well. Putting the Einstein preamp with the Berning power amps immediately muddied the piano and the vocals on the Winterreise.
The soundstage became too forward and diffuse, while with the Berning it seemed better held together though a bit further back in a good way. We swapped back the Berning pre to confirm this. To eliminate synergy issues between pre and power, we did the same exercise in the system below, with the Einstein power amps. The Einstein pre rolled off the top end — Peter, who is not familiar with the recording, realized it immediately too.
The Einstein did give more bloom especially in the midbass but I found the Berning more natural, due to its giving me a beautiful extension, linearity, and transparency, with valve harmonics but without the haze, muddiness, and bloat that can be the negative of many regular valve electronics. Audio Machina smaller model make it to our Recommended Speakers list for small rooms while they will play in big , but not cheap. The maestros if they live up to their potential will be direct competitors to YG Haileys and Stenheims at the price point and ease of room and WAF set up.
Vitus and Berning. Vitus SM is already a Recommended amp on this website. I wanted to confirm my suspicions, that both were different sounds, and wanted to check if one would talk to me. Note that the sub-heading is Vitus and Berning, not Vitus vs Berning.
He used to have a bright edge to his sound but that has now gone, so his system is sounding much more musical. He attributes a large part of that improvement to his Entreq. Switching to the Berning Quads with the Berning pre and back to the Vitus, confirmed what I suspected. These are two very different sounds, and both are excellent. There is no better, it is all about what you want.
The Vitus and Luxman and Symphonic Line Kraft fall into this category of sound , are full bodied tones, liquid and flowing. The Vitus SM and such would probably excel in this category more as compared to any others. The Luxman and Vitus are a bit slower the Kraft not so much. The Vitus was doing a more cohesive full bodied tone that especially favored piano and the chest during the vocals.
While, unlike valves, Vitus was not rolling off the violin…I would say that the Berning was extending it more. Vitus had more chest in the vocals, while the Bernings had much more openness and linearity at the top, setting the vocalist free, while the Vitus made him fuller.
Both preference and speaker match will be important here. I can immediately see Bernings being suitable for stats to supplement the transparency, speed, and disappearance. Vitus has an organic tone, Bernings has transparency with valve harmonics but cleaner than most valves, and you can adjust your source to add to the body. Bernings can be superb on the top half with more speakers for openness and transparency and soar. The selection would depend more on how the amp matches in the mid bass to create a body with your speakers.
Berning Quad Zs are not substitutes for the Vitus sound, but a different sound, and need to be compared to Spectral, Soulution, and Boulder, to see if they can do what these guys do as well. Berning will definitely add more harmonics than them in a positive way. They are fast with a lot of energy. The VTL had more harmonics that brought in involvement, but the midbass was muddy, and the vocals seemed with a mouth that was not wide open, just enhancing the mids.
I wanted both. Bernings does give the Spectral sound with VTL harmonics. Does it do Spectral thing as good as Spectral needs to be confirmed. But like a good idler, direct, or belt, these are different sounds and you have to audition both to see which talk to you.
The pre is definitely recommended as it is an extremely transparent pre with nice harmonics and low cost. The pre and amps are light and cool. It defeats the purpose. The magic will be lost. In fact, buy yourself a Berning pre relatively low cost , and then compare to some top ones which might be out of your budget for now, and if you find a better one, make the swap when budget allows, but till then, this would be excellent. Or Ypsilon especially given passive and active stages.
All too expensive. Roy Gregory and Audiobeat reviewers have this as one of their reference power amps. I can see that the colors of each of the preamps would have stood out cleanly. On the subject of power, if you talk to Hifione in California, a key Berning figure, he will recommend the w Quads over the 30w Berning for horns, to provide it more headroom and dynamics. There have been people moving to horns with Vitus big stereo amps — Avantagarde played with them at Munich in , and there is a person down under running the trios with Dartzeel.
Winston Ma owned this amp for years — never heard it myself but Joe Pittman who did kindly posted on Audionirvana. But at the same time if one would like a more full-bodied sound in their system such as the NAT gear for instance the 2. Fair to say? Gary, I love the NAT. My strategy will be to have something like Berning till I finalize my power amp.
Then compare preamps to get the preamp. Unlike most, I start with speaker, then Lampi analog if I had it , find the power amp to drive the speakers, then add the pre to drive the power. So I would have to find a pre that fits the gain and has sufficient current to drive my power. Any thoughts on whether that combination provides a jump factor to the organic character of the Vitus? Sure — I have the older version; mine has a bypass mode so you can have a line input bypassing the preamp section or alternatively you can set it to unity gain manually without engaging bypass.
Anyway, would you care to speculate how that combination may sound — would value your opinion as your description of Vitus Class A is exactly how I hear it everyday! Oh damn. I did not know that. Missed opportunity. You can get it if you find a good used price, if nothing you can sell it off easily. I like Vitus sound as it is…and I think I am hearing the amp characteristics too, so I doubt if the pre will extend the top end or speed up the amp.
It is worth trying though, as the resale is good. I say worth trying from an ease of resale point. From a gut perspective I would be surprised if it works.
No Linear Tube amplifiers are available in Europe as their products do not have the necessary CE certification. Let me begin by thanking Barry and Kedar for an enjoyable couple of listening sessions. Only when all components work synergistically can the system vanish — and the music take over.
Luckily, Kedar noticed this with the Audiomachina and Berning system. It is all too easy to concentrate on the minutiae, rather than considering the bigger picture — when judging hi-fi. The fact is every piece of music sounds different on every system. Furthermore, it can even sound different on the same system depending on the mood of the listener. Am I enjoying what I am hearing?
Which one to choose between two 80K$ tube amps?
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Operating at a fixed high frequency without traditional audio output transformers, the ZOTL Impedance Converter eliminates the frequency-dependent performance limitations inherent in all transformer-coupled tube amps. Berning amplifiers depart from traditional OTL amplifiers in that they do not require a large number of hot power tubes to supply adequate current for driving speakers. Our amplifiers is not just another traditional vacuum tube amplifier. The technology is unique. In more than one way we call it a "green" amplifier. Why not read story told by the inventor himself - Mr.
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Linear Tube Audio is an American high-end company that specializes in producing tube electronics designed by David Berning. That's interesting because Berning has his own company, but the components it produces are a lot more expensive than LTA's. Both companies offer designs that are radically different from traditional tube amplifiers, and don't have the euphonic sound most people associate with tubes. Case in point: The LTA Z10 is a stereo tube integrated amp that produces incredibly clear sound with speakers or headphones.
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