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Please login or register. Read times 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Steel would allow you to omit much of the bracing, if thick enough. I've seen some guys using granite and the reports are good. Improved cabinet rigidity usually improves the sound in bass reflex and sealed enclosures. That said pretty good rigidity can be attained by thick and well braced MDF.
Actually if you leave out the bracing a smaller cabinet can be made with the same internal volume. If it keeps on ringin', levee's goin' to break.. Quote from: Elysian on July 03, , AM. You guys are amazing! The price range is right for used, and you've also given me some other notes to look at such as woofer size, which I had no idea about. Poor bass articulation is a big pet peeve of mine so it looks like a 8" or 10" is mandatory for me.
Even though I don't listen to music very loudly, I still like having that cleanness, especially in the low registers extending up into the midrange. Thanks for the detailed notes on spacing, too, Dave. Given me some things to look at once I start rearranging furniture and such. Would it be a bad idea to consider putting something like the Duntech Princess into a 12' x 12' listening space? I have no idea if it would be too much for such a small space, though, unless TRAPing the room would help.
I actually kind of like the visuals of having those dampening things on the walls and such so it doesn't bother me aesthetically.
The Princesses are hard to find so I'm not sure where I'd begin, but given how much I love the Sovereign, I wonder if starting a step below with the Princess might just be plenty for me?
I figure I'd definitely need a new amp, though. I think you would be OK with the princess since the WMTMW arrangement runs tightly spaced over middle area of the total height of the speaker.
It's a tall speaker, so it could look ridiculous in a small room, so really it's just a matter of you caring whether people think you are weird or not. I've seen people put Wilsons in small rooms, so nothing wrong with doing that.
At 90db efficiency, you'll be OK with 20 watts in a small room. Quote from: Elysian on July 03, , PM. Although everything here is way out of my price range, this is some really great info.
I was wondering, even with the WMTMW arrangement, if it'd be advisable to get a cut piece of wood from the hardware store to put the speaker on top of, rather than setting directly on carpet.
I'm assuming that's only to help the weight distribution on the floor? A 6' tall speaker will likely look somewhat ridiculous in a small room but I'm totally okay with it looking weird as long as it sounds good. As far as placement, I managed to find two older posts on other forums discussing spacing. One person recommended ' minimum in general for Duntechs, while another person said they were managing fine in a ' space but still needed to place about 2' feet away from the wall. I'll definitely try to find an audio show to listen to.
I'm a bit concerned that since I'm so unfamiliar with speakers, meet conditions will be misrepresentative for me since my ears aren't tuned for speakers like they are for headphones. The KEFs look really attractive, and I do think the Daedalus still has the introductory pricing going on. Good to hear the Magnepan issues with space and positioning extends up into the higher-end line, just like the Mini Maggies.
The Mini Maggies were really nice, even with music with a lot of low-end Massive Attack with the support of a sub, but they didn't sound special at all unless you were sitting in that perfect space.
Even moving your head a bit would collapse the illusion. A few more questions I'm hoping one of you guys might know: - Any experience with Emerald Physics? The CS2. It has rave reviews but I don't know anyone personally who has listened to them. I do like how the dealer is Underwood Hifi, as I've had a solid buying experience from him. I'm assuming that one of those big, heavy floorstanding speakers, in general will have much better dynamics and presence?
A lot of interesting and some very exotic recommendations here. Just to throw a couple of cents in, I would recommend to check out: Ayre AX-7c integrated amplifier. The Trio's are probably a bit out of your price range don't rule out the current iteration of the Vandersteen 2 or 3 and some people have a bit of reverse snobbism about Vandersteen, but they really are good speakers at reasonable price points, well worth checking out and would seem to meet your preferences.
And for it's size, it does make a credible stab at bass. A bit warm, VERY good with transients and clean and clear with very little blurring and excellent soundstaging. Hopefully, I will get some listening time to the PM-1 at home at some point to verify this. I like Magnepans, but I don't think they would be good in your small square room.
Salk Sound and Vapor Sound are two companies that sell factory direct and sounded good at the shows, but you can't audition them in advance generally.
You might look for a pair of Audio Note AN-E on the used market you will have to do some research, there are many iterations of these out there as they are designed to go in to the corners if you can make space there. I had a pair of these in a room similar to yours and liked them very much. They are fairly efficient and they even make the room seem bigger by not being out in it.
More of a beautiful sound than a strictly accurate one, but not wildly inaccurate to be sure but a quite nice speaker to just sit back and enjoy music with. These are large stand mounts and excel, especially on vocals with bass that is good down into the 40 hz area in my mind, as low as I would risk in a small room, others disagree with this but getting deep bass right in a small room is not at all easy.
Just a few more thoughts for your quest. Good luck! Quote from: Elysian on July 04, , PM. SMF 2. Problem is that getting a complex cabinet made is a non-trivial endeavor. I for one can't get the woodwork done, but I have friends who own an autoparts company who could make all the panels out of metal.
It would be interesting to see how to adjust a speaker design to accommodate the change in materials, even if you're tripling the overall weight. Logged Love isn't always on time.
Logged If it keeps on ringin', levee's goin' to break.. Bass extension and power? Prefer neutral tonal character leaning towards the darker side. Slight warmth over coldness or sharpness. Good articulation in the lower frequencies. Realism is more important than resolution or transparency for me. Marginally recessed treble is okay. Natural and neutral midrange. Extended and deep bass. Viscerality would be great but guessing it might be a no-go given my restrictions.
Deep soundstage would be ideal but understand if this isn't possible. Open to any amping suggestions. Square rooms are not great, because the equal distances can create really problematic bass response. Some will suggest placing the speakers diagonally, but in my own experience, that usually doesn't work brilliantly.
So if they are exactly 3 feet from the front wall, they should be about This is just a jumping off point, but it'll at least give you an idea of where to start. From there, you can experiment with small movements here or there, and the amount of toe-in.
Since the speakers are going to be pretty close to the side walls, if you can, try putting RPG style diffusers at the first reflection points. Most people put absorption panels there, but with very close sidewall placements, diffusers can actually provide much smoother response and better imaging. With the front wall you can experiment a bit.
Going full on LEDE live end, dead end would mean more diffusers behind the speakers, which might help add some depth to the sound. Because of the bad room ratio though, absorption may be better, or you could try a panel with a scatter plate on the front to get a bit of both. If you opt for speakers with any real low bass response, it's gonna be messy. Floor to ceiling tri-traps in the corners are your friends, and you can add scatter plates to the ones in the front of the room.
If that's not going to work, you can mount tri-traps where the walls meet the ceiling which won't reduce any floor space.
If possible, set your listening position at an equilateral triangle between the speakers. Usable bass into the high 30s, but being KEF there's not going to be tons of it, just tight and accurate bass. If you went that route, you'd give up about 5Hz or so of extension.
They are up there with ATC as some of Britain's very best. Heavier than the KEFs at around lbs. They are more sensitive though and should be Class A friendly. Thanks to the signature PMC transmission line cabinet, they have bass, bass and more bass.
We're talking 20Hz. They can definitely work with close wall placements, but you'll have to get the room response under control. I know the price is really pushing it, but they are some of the best speakers I've ever heard. Just magical.
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And loving them.. I recently auditioned some of the Stillpoints The results were poor Went back to my custom pavers which have a SS insert in the bottom with a spike to the concrete slab I cast my slab at 2ft thick when i built my dedicated room. Then there is a 10mm layer of natural cork between the paver and the Sovereign plinth.
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Speakers can be refoamed and surrounds can be replaced. Still prefer passive power conditioners. However, there were more problems. G12 H, this is an old speaker and has been through the wars a bit, the cone has lost much of the edge doping, the dust cap was pushed in and the cone moves in and out very easily. Wiring tweeters to your coaxial speakers is not difficult, but it does require a bit of work and patience.
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