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By tysontom , January 3, in Acoustic Research. Interesting and well-written article about famous speakers and their influence on the high-fidelity speaker industry.

What do you think are the most influential speakers; not necessarily the most famous or smoothest or those with the lowest distortion, but speakers that influenced the industry with changes over time. Following is an incomplete [and random] list of several noteworthy and influential loudspeakers over the past years.

Please add to the list. The Altec Lansing coaxial was a very influential speaker, among others of this type. Quad's ESL was very important, early on. Extremely innovative designs, but what companies followed Ohm's lead and used the Walsh driver? None that I remember. It's all of a sudden available as a separate driver in some parts catalogs today, but back in when the AMT-1 was intro'd, no companies--none--jumped on the AMT bandwagon.

That's the difference between notable and influential. There's no right or wrong here. Ditto Dynaco's "Aperiodic" design. The KLH That was the total extent to which high-profile companies emulated the Aperiodic design approach: One other speaker from one other company. The A was notable but not influential.

AR's sealed design was the industry standard for 20 years. Only after T-S's research became widely disseminated in the early '70's and took the guesswork out of ported design did that approach become prevalent.

So sealed was "influential" for 20 years. Not bad. That's how I look at the difference between the two categorizations. Good points, Steve, although I'd suggest that the Walsh driver's effect can be observed decades later in high-end companies like German Physiks and MBL; which for me establishes the design as at least important, if not purely influential in a mainstream application.

Could the absence of the Heil air-motion driver in other manufacturer's designs have been a licensing issue? That a number of companies Golden Ear, Martin-Logan, Legacy Audio are suddenly releasing products with a Heil-type driver makes me wonder if this is so. Or perhaps it was just a question of finally being able to source a less-expensive variant hello, China! Don't know if you meant influential design or influential speaker but what about the Yamaha NS10 family.

I don't have one but I am sure I have recordings that there were influenced by these speakers. A remarkably unremarkable loudspeaker that somehow got to be essentially standard equipment in many recording studios. Some people say it's because of--not in spite of-- its complete lack of distinction that it is so popular as a monitor speaker, the thought being that it represents the "everyday speaker," and if the recording sounds good on this very pedestrian unit, it will sound good on everything from 5" factory-standard car speakers to Thiel and Legacy super towers.

How about the destroyer of the moderately priced full range speaker industry The Bose Acoustimass. The Quad was a great and innovative speaker, but more in the "notable" than "influential" category. Quad for notable? The Bose AM-5 Acoustimass was listed as no.

I think the section on the reasons for the AM-5's influence--not to be confused with its controversial performance--is well laid out. The AM-5 inspired an entirely new category of home speaker, the sub-sat system, and made home theater far easier to accept in a real living room compared to five large wooden boxes. The speaker business has never been the same since the Bose AM-5's debut, so its influence may be about the most dramatic of all.

The article deals with influence and I think it makes its case. Steve F. I couldn't agree more with your post, Steve. Coincidentally, I recently spoke to a former manager of a large and popular local audio store of the 70's and 80's. That's "influence". Stig Carlsson designs may also be be categorized for either notable or influential designs. His designs for Sonab were quite popular omnidirectional designs.

Unfortunately Stig was better engineer than business man, so designs under his own name were not popular as ones under Sonab brand. PS change language to English on link so it is slightly easier to understand the site Interesting topic that I am in no way knowledgable enough to give input on, but I will ask some questions.

Style comes into play as well. As an architect we have our own set of influential designs that we always refer back to and that continue to impact design today. There was entire generation of speakers sold in the millions that few of us on here would consider.

We often categorize them as kabuki's. What speakers influenced those designs initially? Yes--the Bose created quite a stir when first introduced and unlike other N. Subs got started in the '60s and I remember their introduction.

The Bose was intro'd in and was the first of Bose's family of "01" speakers: the was next, then the , , and All were variations of the "Direct reflecting" , but all of these were totally passive, uncomplicated speakers that simply had tweeters firing in various directions. The had an EQ box that had to be inserted into the receiver's tape loop. They were reasonably successful commercially, and Bose was just another of many speaker companies throughout the 60's-mid's.

Then in , the AM-5 was introduced. With its hideaway "bass module" taking advantage of audible-directionality-masking factors, it was hugely successful, as noted above.

There actually was a speaker system in the 's called Weathers or some such that used a 3-piece configuration, taking advantage of the same acoustic principles. So there was nothing new technologically about the AM-5's basic operating concept. The idea of subwoofers has been around for quite some time, as JKH points out above. The AM-5 was the first to truly popularize the configuration of the 3-piece system, with their 'sub' being an integral part of the full-range system.

The early subs of the 60's's were mostly add-ons, designed to extend the host system's response below an already "pretty full range" system response. Also, the Bose bass module went high enough about Hz that the sats could be very small, since they were only reproducing from Hz on up.

That was the key--small sats, "Virtually Invisible," as Bose called it. And Bose took advantage of well-understood acoustic masking properties, so that the bass module was never objectionably or obviously localizable when the sats were also playing.

AM-5, Bose grows to a different level, leaves the traditional speaker industry in the dust. There is a good AK thread that discusses this, what are "kabuki speakers"??? Having never heard the term referring to speakers before I read the above link and now understand this to be a paradox. Kabuki is art and these speakers are not but the name probably derives from the heavy use of make up to convey character. Apparently there are traditional patterns and colors of make up that are used to signal a character type.

I think "pachinko speakers" would be more appropriate but "that horse has left the barn" as they say. Very interesting topic which makes for enjoyable reading but usually winds up in a difference of opinion which is never resolved. I guess my question about the Kabuki category is that there were a ton of speakers manufactured in the 60's and 70's that targeted a very specific market made popular by the new music of the day, rock and roll.

Cabs with multiple drivers and big booming bass. The japanese manufacturers saw the market with our soldiers abroad. The idea was more is more and that is really all that mattered. I have a pair of Sansui SP's which pretty much fall into that category. Pioneer, Sony, Sansui So, while few if any of these will go down as a positive influence on the quality of speakers, it sure was a big run of production and brought a lot of guys initially into the world of audio gear.

Some of you that are vets can probably chime in on this. Great point about those elaborate Japanese speakers "influencing" the market into higher growth. My older cousin was in the Navy in the '60's and stationed overseas, and he and his buddies certainly took advantage of the opportunity to buy gear. Their experience translated into a life-long hobby, continuing when they returned Stateside and certainly "influencing" those around them.

I think all of us have a certain fascination with those 15" 4- and 5-way speakers with their multiple--and virtually random- and arbitrarily-placed drivers-- and those incredibly interesting fretwork grilles.

Yeah, the 4x no doubt had a far more linear FR and probably went deeper in the bass with less THD, but the big Japanese fretworks were a class onto themselves. I doubt the Japanese speakers Steve mentions had much influence on the overall market, but he is right about the fascination with that crop of huge 4- and 5-way speakers from Japan during the s and s.

I think there was an attempt by the Japanese to parlay their great success with electronics into loudspeakers -- an area in which they lacked loudspeaker know how and technology -- and the idea was that "bigger was better," at least in their minds with regards to the American consumer.

I must admit that I always liked those intricate wood grilles. Some versions were probably okay, but most were boomy, strident and harsh. Deep bass was largely non-existent, but these were designed mostly for popular rock music. Workmanship on some models seemed nice, and the cabinets were handsome for the age, sort of an emulation of the elegant old McIntosh ML-series cabinet designs. It has been a little time since I last hooked up my Sansui SP's I purchased them simply because of their look with the lattice grille etc.

They sounded nice with acoustic music mostly as I recall. Although I would bet they would benefit from some new caps and there are threads devoted to reducing the port size to help.

I think this is where the phrase "put a sock in it" was derived!


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His designs for Sonab were quite popular omnidirectional designs. I have heard OA in 80´s and they were truly good speakers.

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These are a reluctant sale, however due to space constraints I need to make some choices, this is a hard one! Designed by speaker guru Stig Carlsson, the OA was one of the first from the new Carlsson series and the omnidirectional concept has proven popular amongst other manufacturers over the years. Sonically, I find the the OA to be far superior than its Sonab predecessors, imaging is significantly improved and the overall balanced sound is much more direct and lively. Bass response is impressive especially given the size of the box, when listening to some of my favourite jazz artists such as Diana Krall or Charlie Haden, the sound stage feels and sounds complete and very revealing. Jazz and accoustic style music really shine with the OA's, however to be honest they are a good all rounder and can handle rock and other genres pretty easily as well.

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