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It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. First Prev 2 of 13 Go to page. Apr 21, 1, Ann Arbor, Michigan www. Good answers, thank you Angela and Roger. Apr 21, 88 1 Angela said:.
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May 25, 0 0 Conifer, Colorado. As Kinky Friedman once so eloquently put it: "Let's let Saigon's be bygones. Angela, you are clearly a person with a LOT of backstory!! Apr 20, 7, Metro DC. What are the prospects for a full range electrostatic.? ML has made the hybrid very popular. Everybody has capitulated except Quad.
I have not heard the 10c3. I just think a hybrid is a cop out. Although Roger makes a good argument, I'm not buying the whole limited dispersion argument. Maybe Roger could explain why he choose the Hybrid approach. I sent Roger your questions and here is his response. The Model 10c can be operated as a full range ESL. You can adjust its electronic crossover or eliminate it entirely to produce full-range operation anytime you wish.
So why do I prefer hybrid operation? Simply because I am not willing to compromise performance. You cannot beat the laws of physics. The fact is that the bass performance of a full range ESL is poor. A speaker must do several things to perform well.
In addition to obvious things like linear frequency response and fast transient response, a high performance speaker must also be able to play loudly enough to reproduce music and all its dynamics at realistically life-like levels.
No full range ESL can do so. High output is a tremendous challenge for an ESL. But technology has advanced to the point where it is now possible to make an ESL play at ear-bleeding levels from the midrange on up. But no full-range ESL can produce deep, powerful bass that can match what you hear from live sound.
Only magnetic speakers have that capability. There is more to this issue of bass quality than just the amount of deep bass available. Let me explain that statement. One of the truly wonderful things about ESLs is their low Q behavior.
By way of review, the engineering term "Q" refers to the "quality" of the sound with respect to control and damping. In other words, a "low Q" driver exhibits very well-controlled behavior with fast transient response and without any overshoot and ringing. A "high Q" driver is poorly controlled, has resonances, overshoots and rings after an electrical impulse, and has poor "smeared" transient response. It does not stop instantly as it should. Instead it vibrates for many cycles a relatively long time until it finally comes to a complete stop.
It "rings" like a bell. This behavior adds extraneous frequencies to the original sound that corrupts it and makes it sound very unnatural. The massless nature of an ESL means that it can accelerate instantly to follow the musical wave form. Even more importantly, the mass of the air around an ESL totally swamps the incredibly tiny mass of the ESL's diaphragm, so it cannot "ring" and resonate.
It simply stops instantly, which gives it great clarity, detail, and transient response. This is like trying to ring a bell underwater. It won't ring because the mass of the bell is swamped by the mass of the water around it.
It simply is no longer free to vibrate and ring. Therefore an ESL has very low Q behavior. This is one of the reasons it sounds so "tight", "crisp", "quick", and can extract the most subtle details from the sound and reproduce transients flawlessly. However, this wonderful, low Q behavior of an ESL does not apply in the bass.
An ESL is built like a drum, which is an extremely high Q device. An ESL has a stretched, "springy" diaphragm. The diaphragm is relatively large, so couples with a large amount of air in the room.
Air has mass. The relatively large mass of the air to which it is coupled will cause the ESL to resonate like a drum at some low frequency based on the mass and spring rate tension of the diaphragm. Tap on the edge of any ESL and you will hear this resonance.
This is the fundamental resonance of the ESL. It is the only resonance in an ESL, but it is huge typically 16 dB and like all resonances, it is extremely high Q.
Being high Q, frequencies around the fundamental resonance will be very poorly controlled and have a large amount of overshoot and ringing. The sound in this region will therefore sound very different from the low Q sound of the ESL everywhere else in the audio bandwidth. The result of this high Q behavior is that the quality of electrostatic bass is flaccid, poorly controlled, sloppy, and boomy.
Yet another problem with ESL bass is that it is very non-linear. The fundamental resonance causes a large peak in the bass followed by a sharp drop in output below it. It becomes a "one note wonder. Therefore, I don't consider electrostatic bass to be satisfactory for a high performance speaker. The solution is to use magnetic drivers for the bass. Of course, bass from magnetic drivers is less-than-perfect too. While magnetic woofers can produce great power and depth that no ESL can hope to match, and they can be made to have excellent frequency response, they also have high Q behavior although not nearly as high as the Q of the fundamental resonance of an ESL.
So what can be done to fix the problems of magnetic drivers so that they can mate well with an ESL? Much of the problem with magnetic woofers has to do with their enclosures. The typical closed box infinite baffle and vented bass reflex enclosures greatly raise the Q of the driver and are largely responsible for the bloated, boomy, and muddy quality we usually hear from most magnetic woofers.
However, it is possible to eliminate these faults with the use of a transmission line loading and other techniques. This is another, long technical discussion that I do not have time to describe in this opus, but anybody who wishes can phone me for a detailed analysis and engineering solutions. The bottom line here is that it is possible to achieve deep, powerful, low Q bass from a dynamic woofer.
I do so by using transmission line loading, custom-built low mass and low Q drivers, magnetic damping systems, direct coupling to high damping factor amplifiers, and eliminating passive crossovers with their series inductors.
The performance from such a magnetic bass system is far superior to electrostatic bass because it is loud, dynamic, has no resonance, is low Q, and has flat frequency response right down to 20 Hz.
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