Dcs vivaldi vs rossini
In a digital audio system samples must be accurate in level and time but jitter, which exists in all digital systems, can result in timing errors in these samples causing the analogue signal to be reconstructed inaccurately. In a dCS system our DACs can act as the system master clock, but listening tests have shown that there is no substitute for a high-quality, dedicated master clock. The crystal oscillators are pre-aged and selected for long term stability then individually calibrated over a wide temperature range to ensure consistent optimal performance. Vivaldi Master Clock uses a sophisticated microcontroller system to ensure smooth correction as the temperature changes and this approach gives a more stable result than either oven controlled crystal oscillators or even atomic clocks.
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This was a decision based on wanting to reduce the box count and interconnections and to some extent the budget available. I have been having a private dialogue with another community member and he wrote effectively the same thing to me yesterday. As he out it, the Mutec sounded cleaner but it also robbed the music of something.
I do know both the Rossini and the Vivaldi systems, but not the Network Bridge. My question is, and I posted a different thread on this is… why?
Made the mistake of borrowing a Vivaldi DAC. No clock or upsampler. I have got dual AES working now. Sync mode in the dac to Master. All seems good. Saw some advice that sync mode should be Universal Master or possibly something else but could be for different situation. Any other important settings? Advice greatly appreciated. Yes that looks correct. Master is the correct synch setting in this configuration. However the user manual is for me anyway a little ambiguous on the sample rate available from the single wordclock output from the DAC.
NWB ideally requires two clock inputs, one for I wish that dCS would improve the wording of this passage to make it clearer for idiots like me.
Pete, I had not noticed that ambiguity. This has to be expected behaviour, given that the two signals are both multiples of Or were you alluding to something else? I saw the comments about two clock inputs. I have tested all frequencies and it seems fine to me. It seems to me, not having heard the Upsampler, that the biggest drawback with using the Network Bridge with Vivaldi is having to make all Vivaldi settings changes other than volume, input, filter etc which are on the remote on the front panel.
Which is a pain. I was unaware of this distinction. I have not owned or used a NB, but I had always assumed its control through Mosaic would be similar, if not identical, to the Upsampler. Is this not the case? The Vivaldi dac does not appear in Mosaic if connected to NB it seems. A bit last millennium. But I imagine the reason is to keep network noise out of the dac. Unfortunately that Vivaldi dac seems very good. Which has got me thinking about the Upsampler. These screenshots should help illustrate: The first two show Mosaic input selection options; the next three are Mosaic screenshots showing various settings, and the last is a Roon screenshot showing Vivaldi volume control in Roon.
I can only answer that most of the normal operations of the Vivaldi DAC can be selected from Mosaic given the accompanying Vivaldi Upsampler.
This does not include unusual ones like Factory Reset or engaging the system burn-in generator. Of course many of the control options , once you have had a few days to experiment with them, are really set and forget. Press either of these and all of the inputs to the DAC or Upsampler are cycled through until you reach the one you want.
There is certainly a sound quality improvement with the Upsampler compared to NB. Obviously if you are a fan of upsampling you could say that the increment in SQ is significant as this option is not available with Network Bridge. Solely regarding the network input with native format programme there is a very discernable increase of quality.
However I suspect not as great as Rossini to Vivaldi. For the initial three or so days I could not get a handle on it and even thought that maybe the NB was preferable. However, once it had had a chance to burn in I just sat there grinning. A bit like the system clock. The above remarks refer to the network input.
I am unable to comment on the Toslink port SQ as that remains a virgin. Initially they can seem slight or different but not clear exactly what the difference is. But then when it does become clear what the difference is it can seem huge and as someone said: when heard it cannot be unheard and has to be obtained.
I sometimes wonder if upgrades are actually downgrades of previously much appreciated components. It also makes me wonder just how good sound reproduction can get and what it sounds like.
Until you have heard it I do not believe you can fully comprehend it. The big change for me from Rossini to Vivaldi DACs was a much more 3D or holographic presentation with more solidity to the sound. Rather than a violin being a 2D instrument it seems like the instrument had depth. Not just position in the sound stage but the instrument itself had depth.
If Upsamplers and clocks can add to that then I can understand why people like them. Consensus seems to be that the Upsampler is a bigger improvement than the clock? It has to be if you think that upsampling is a game changer.
I suspect that it is pretty well known here that I do not like upsampling so my motivation in buying it was its improved network performance. A brief recap on a bit of my dCS history on this. Around 2 years later I decided to buy a used one I cannot recall why. Anyway I subsequently thought it was worthwhile.
Forward another couple of years and I had changed to a Paganini system and had purchased all four boxes together as an upgrade from the Elgar or Classic stack.
I used this for a year or so when dCS upgraded the Paganini clock to clock 2. This introduced a better specified USB input in comparison to the original input which was on the upsampler. So I sent it back to dCS to be upgraded. That idea lasted about 5 minutes. There was just so much gone. So I played LPs for the two weeks it was away. So I would vote for the clock in preference. He just got as split an opinion as you will probably find here. Pete has far more experience here than me.
And I have spent a fair bit of time with all three modes without the Clock; none of the three is intrinsically superior on all recordings. However, to my ears, the addition of the Clock is more significant on all music. All listening is done over network. Greetings from Switzerland, David. Happy New Year! Thank you for the help.
Control the dac volume in Roon? If you have a toslink input to the Upsampler and another toslink input to the dac how would you select one or the other via IR control Logitech Harmony? How would you describe the sound quality improvement? No doubt Greg has the correct answer on this. Thank you very much for that. Seems like it does pretty much all I would want of it.
dCS Rossini Player
It is first and foremost a state of the art network streaming DAC that uses technology developed for the Rossini range. With the addition of the unique headphone amplifier it brings the extraordinary dCS digital experience to both headphone and stereo listeners. The new dCS Rossini system makes superlative sounding music from a wide range of digital sources. Rossini delivers a powerful and visceral sound yet it is highly transparent too, making for an immersive and realistic listening experience. Using the same platform as our flagship Vivaldi series, Vivaldi One is current state-of-the-art, delivering unmatched sonic and measured performance. The hardware platform in Network Bridge enables you to stream high resolution music files from network attached storage, connected USB drives, online streaming services as well as Apple devices via Apple Airplay, outputting bit perfect audio direct to your DAC.
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LOG IN. Hello fellow AGers. This question is specifically directed to DCS owners. I have a simple system that I find nice but certainly not on par with the real Audiophiles in this forum. I am not interested in keeping the CDs and buying the Rossini with transport Thank you! Edit Delete. Not sure you want to hear this but my experience as a dCS Paganini full stack and now four box Vivaldi owner is that in each and every instance the same CD played back on a disc is far superior to the track ripped from a computer, played off a stick or streamed. Every time in every place the CD sounds best. I auditioned the Vivaldi stack a few months ago. Source was a streamer.
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It provides access to the controls on the unit, far more conveniently than the front panel buttons. I looked at this in the context of both the USB and Ethernet inputs. I will be honest I never get into the dCS vs. MSB comparison thing because they are both great products and both have their fans. The crystals are graded against a reference under temperature extremes at the factory in an environmental chamber, where any variances are recorded and then individual crystals are matched and optimized with software.
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