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Better Placement, Better Sound: Speaker Placement Guide
Forum Rules. I think they were definitely worth my time to go listen, as a That's good to know as the QLN's have my interest and to me they are the most attractive of the three. Just not sure if that room at the current house in Greenville is wide enough to let them Many speakers which will go un-named have a fairly flat frequency response, time correct, etc.
Many of these speakers, to me, sound boring and lack the life to reproduce music in a lively manner As a matter of fact I did and enjoyed the music and great conversation with Chris. QLN show great promise to my ears and embarrassed the Wilson. The Dynaudio are just sledgehammers of sound. Welcome to the AudioShark Forums. What's New? Results 1 to 16 of Thread Tools Show Printable Version. November 2, , PM 1. Trying out Cardas "Golden Ratio" Placement in my Room Hey all, it's been an eventful for us all and as such I have been in lurking mode for most of the year.
But I am coming out of hibernation to share the results of a major room overhaul this weekend. Since my last system update in February where I was introduced to Naim for the first time Uniti Nova I have moved up the chain to a Naim separates system consisting of the Supernait 3 and NDX 2 streamer. As a result of having my home theater and 2 channel system in the same room however, I was running out of space for the "required" Naim power supplies. Which was also really intriguing because I have long thought I could get better imaging out of my system if I eliminated the console and wall-mounted TV from between my speakers.
So long story short - due to not having usable corners on the other side of the room I decided to experiment with the Cardas placement for my Volti Rivals. Using their online calculator I determined optimal placement is about 7. After setting this up and re-arranging amps, subwoofers, and power to that side of the room, I worked with toe-in for a bit and found that this set up is actually jaw-dropping from an imaging and soundstage standpoint. It is as though the band is performing about 3' feet back and inside the speaker stage - almost like a hologram.
The effect is especially stunning when listening to just a singer and instrument, such as Eeg Fonnesbaek's "Willow Weep for Me. November 2, , PM 2. I also came to the conclusion that playing around with speaker locations will give you the best bang for your buck!
Congratulations and enjoy it! November 2, , PM 3. Of course the extensive ASC treatments also did their magic. November 2, , PM 4. Originally Posted by nicoff. Great set up! November 2, , PM 5. Originally Posted by TheOctopus. November 2, , PM 6. Re: Trying out Cardas "Golden Ratio" Placement in my Room Most folks do not have the luxury of being able to play around with speaker locations.
Often, WAF or room usage constraints limits placement in a way that does not let a person get the best possible sound.
IME, Speaker and seat positions are much more important than fancy interconnects or power cords. November 2, , PM 7. Re: Trying out Cardas "Golden Ratio" Placement in my Room Remember that the Cardas speaker placement method works best with near-field listening, so it should be modified or ignored for speaker systems with more than 2 drivers, except in very large rooms where one can sit far enough away from the speaker for the drivers to blend. November 2, , PM 8.
Originally Posted by rbbert. Remember that the Cardas speaker placement method works best with near-field listening, so it should be modified or ignored for speaker systems with more than 2 drivers, except in very large rooms where one can sit far enough away from the speaker for the drivers to blend. November 2, , PM 9. November 6, , PM I originally used the Cardas method for my set up but always thought that perhaps I should do a little more experimenting. I used the Wilson Audio Setup Procedure and improved the sound in the system in all the important attributes.
This was a fairly easy set up. I have found that using absolute formulas doesn't consider the current environment of the room and the Wilson setup does.
You never know what you can gain until you try it. Unfortunately I cannot move my listening chair any further back from the speakers to increase the distance, as it backs right up against my couch which is pointed in the opposite direction and positioned for my surround and Atmos overhead speakers.
The distance is working pretty well for me. The bass is pinpoint accurate and the speakers definitely disappear to create an uncanny holographic placement between and behind the speakers. However, the sound definitely does not extend beyond the speakers, and there is material with hard-panned elements acoustic guitar etc that can break the illusion very easy to localize when hard-panned to one side or another. I also have 6 additional bass traps in the rear of the room as well as corner bass traps in the opposite corners.
The front half of this 2 channel room does not have corners thanks to an entry doorway on the right and a window with heavy curtains on the left. But there is no bloat or bloom whatsoever in the sound. The Sumiko method is another one.
Re: Trying out Cardas "Golden Ratio" Placement in my Room The whole science of acoustics is fascinating and accounts more for the sound of a system or at least just as much than any other component.
I have experimented with the Sumiko method before and it was quite tedious. I never was able to get everything "perfect" but because I was doing this myself I just eventually went with the best sound I could get out of it.
That's what I like about the Cardas method is that being based on measured distances it's fairly easy to lock in the distances from back and side walls, and then experimenting with toe-in is easy. When Greg Roberts initially set up my Rivals he told me he likes to toe-in to where the drivers are crossing about a foot in front of your face, which results in some pretty severe toe-in angles depending on how far apart the speakers are.
My only complaint continues to be the width of the soundstage on the outside of the speakers themselves. Someday when the pandemic lets up I may actually have someone over to help me dial in even further, or even better hire Jim to come by and consult on my room. The whole science of acoustics is fascinating and accounts more for the sound of a system or at least just as much than any other component The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge.
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Speaker Placement Calculators
Updated November Speaker placement is a complex topic that often falls by the wayside with new hi-fi enthusiasts eager to throw their system together and get the tunes pumping. Thankfully or frustratingly , there are a number of resources across the web to help you place your 2-channel, surround sound and desktop speaker systems just right. Keep in mind that these are best practices, but your room and equipment plays a significant role in the ultimate sound. Use these as baselines to start, then fine-tune for yourself. This guide includes room setup designs, speaker placement calculators and other resources for rectangular rooms, square rooms, near-field listening positions and more. See the Cardas Guide.
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Please login or register. Pages: [ 1 ] 2 All Go Down. Author Topic: Speaker Setup in your mastering room. Read times Thomas W. Bethel Hero Member Offline Posts: I am always looking for suggestions on setting up speakers. Any insights on how you arrived at your current speaker setup in your room, including any software you used, would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Cardas speaker placement
The Real Trap option is designed to provide the flattest bass response in some rooms. Originally devised for near field monitoring environments and can work well with some desktop setups. Could work well where recording is done in the room in front of the monitoring station. Not sure how useful it is for audiophiles, but who knows maybe you have a bunch of obstacles to avoid and this work for you. This is my favorite placement recommendation, and at least in my room isolated the sound from the room very well, as close to listening outside as I've gotten.
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Discussion in ' Audio Hardware ' started by Thouston , Jul 2, Log in or Sign up. Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Cardas Golden Ratio speaker placement divided in half. Location: Mattoon, IL. Has anyone tried the Golded Ratio speaker placement cut in half?
Cardas Golden Ratio speaker placement divided in half.
By tube fanatic , February 14, in Talkin' Tubes. It's no secret that I long ago embraced near-field 2 channel listening as a simple method of greatly increasing involvement in the music. The advantages have been talked about before: huge soundstage especially with SETs , minimal power requirements when used with Klipsch speakers even bookshelf size models , pinpoint localization of instruments and performers, ideally suited to small to medium sized rooms, etc. George Cardas, of cable fame, advocated a method of mathematically calculating the ideal speaker placement for near-field listening for those who have a dedicated listening room needed because the required speaker placement may not be the most cosmetically appealing. After spending so many years in the field there's not much which impresses me. Now I wish I had tried the Cardas method when I first found out about it! I almost can't find the words which adequately describe the experience.
I tried that golden ratio speaker placement...WOW!
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Log in or Sign up. Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Location: Virginia Beach. So I was tinkering yet again and figured I'd give it go. I recently moved some furniture around so I have more space to play with. So with tape measure, tape and some string I measured and marked and measured again.
Upon further careful inspection, the writing turned out to be sequence of numbers; ten numbers: The combination for the lock! But then I thought, "How odd is it to use a combination that could only be discerned in the light of a 2A3 tube. This was intriguing. It meant someone knew I was the only one among the local audio Illuminati with 2A3 amplifiers. What could it mean?
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